Tutorial – Installing Windows 10 64-bit on 2007 iMac 7.1
Following the release of Windows 10, Apple has also updated their Windows 10 support via BootCamp v6. See here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204990
Essentially BootCamp allows Windows to be installed on another partition (called the BootCamp partition) on the same Mac hard drive (or SSD); this allows the user to easily dual boot the Mac between MacOS and Windows. While BootCamp 6 is great for those people who are lucky enough to buy or own any Mac later than 2012, it is not so useful for people like me who are still using older desktop such as the 24″ iMac 2007.
For the iMac 2007, the BootCamp support stops at version 4. Apple officially supports Windows 7 32bit running on a bootcamp partition. Many people have installed Windows 7 32bit onto the iMac 2007 and many people have also successfully upgraded this to Windows 8.1 32bit. Apple says the iMac only can run up to Windows 7 32-bit. So running anything beyond this means you are on your own when it comes to having issues. Unfortunately a 32bit OS cannot take full advantage of the 4GB of ram and a 64bit OS is required.
iMac 2007 – 8 year-old technology that is just as good in year 2015
This is the iMac 2007 spec just in case anyone is not aware:
- 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
- Max 4GB DDR2 SDRAM PC2-5300
- 1920 x 1200 TFT screen
- ATI Radeon 2600 Pro with 256MB GDDR3 memory (The 20″ iMac with 2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo has a slightly slower ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB of GDDR3 memory)
The 24″ iMac 2007 is an 8 year old desktop and most people would deem this as a dinosaur in today’s context. I think the iMac 2007 is a reliable machine and still looks gorgeous by today’s standard and it will be great to be able to extend its life for a few more years. Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 is known to run well on older hardware. In fact Windows 10 with its “Compact OS” feature have an even smaller footprint than Windows 8.1. Wouldn’t it be great if we can install Windows 10 on the iMac to make it even more useful? And while we are at it, why not make this a 64bit install too. These days it does not make a lot of sense to use a 32bit OS unless we are dealing with really really old hardware with 2GB ram or less.
I have had Yosemite installed on my 24″ iMac but find that it has been giving me random reboot from time to time. It is completely random and very frustrating. A quick search on Google suggest that I am not alone in this. It is unfortunate that a supposedly stable OS based on the Mach kernel can be so sentimental at times. So in the meantime I have downgraded to Maverick to enjoy a more stable environment. So this article is written with the main aim to dual boot Maverick and Windows 10 64bit. El Capitan has just been released and I will be trying that in place of Maverick.
If the install is not successful, well at least I have tried and failed. But I am pleased to say that all seems to go well. I am happy with the result. The iMac is no speed demon but if you are not into gaming, I think Windows 10 performance on the iMac 2007 is pretty snappy. Here is how I did it.
This tutorial is made with MacOS Maverick in mind and given this, I am not sure if this tutorial will work with Yosemite or the upcoming El Capitan. However, I really don’t see any reason why not. This tutorial assume that you have some basic knowledge of how to work on a command prompt, etc. It is also assumed that your MAC is physically connected to your Windows PC via Ethernet or wireless because we need to share files at a certain point. Please note that you will be taking your own risk to do this install and please do a backup first before you do anything.
I have not used Boot Camp Assistant throughout this tutorial because I have not found that it is necessary to do so. Before I discovered this method, I was mucking around with editing Boot Camp Assistant and installing Windows 7 first and then installing Windows 10 over the partition. The process is lengthy and simply just too tedious for me.
Step 1 – Creating a Bootable Windows 10 64bit DVD
It is assumed that Maverick is already installed on the Mac and that you have a PC with Windows handy. We need to create a bootable DVD using Windows. It is possible to do the same on the Mac but I think it is a lot easier to do this on a Windows box.
Windows 10 64bit ISO can be downloaded by running the Microsoft Media Creation Tool on a Windows 7/8/8.1 machine. More information is located here. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10. In a nutshell, you just run the Media Creation Tool and it will download the ISO for you. Don’t use it to create a bootable USB because we don’t need a bootable USB for this tutorial. Don’t burn this to a bootable DVD either…at least not yet. We will need to post-processed the Windows 10 ISO before doing so.
Now that you have downloaded the Windows 10 64bit ISO and saved this somewhere, we need to tweak/remaster the ISO using Microsoft’s OSCDIMG tool. You can find more info about the OSCDIMG tool here – https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc749036(WS.10).aspx. Download this tool to a temporary folder.
Why is this necessary? Well…if you don’t remaster the Windows 10 ISO at this stage, chances are that you won’t get pass the “Select CD-ROM Boot Type” issue. This error will pop up when you try to boot the iMac from the stock Windows 10 DVD and this looks like this:
The trouble with the above error is that the keyboard is being locked out and you can’t press any key. So we need to customize the install DVD. This sounds very complex but is actually very simple. The way to remaster the Windows 10 64bit ISO is this:
- Create a temporary folder say C:\WIN1064 with the intent to hold the content to this ISO. Try to keep the name short and without spaces. It is easier to deal with short names in a command line later.
- On Windows, double click the Windows 10 64bit ISO to mount this ISO (or you can use any other software you prefer, such as 7-ZIP). Copy all the content and dump the whole lot to C:\WIN1064 folder. Remember to preserve all the sub-folders and the like.
- Move the OSCDIMG.exe file you have downloaded earlier to another temporary folder such as C:\TEMP folder.
- Start a windows command prompt with Administration rights. Change the directory to C:\TEMP folder.
- Issue this command “c:\temp\oscdimg.exe -n -m -b”c:\WIN1064\boot\etfsboot.com” “c:\WIN1064” “c:\temp\win1064.iso”.
This will create a remastered ISO of Windows 10 64bit located in the folder C:\temp. Now use a CD writing software such as InfraRecorder to burn this ISO to a DVD. If all things go smoothly, you should now have a bootable Windows 10 64bit remastered DVD. We are now done with the PC and can now shift our attention to the Mac.
Step 2 – Finding out iMac’s graphics display engine
Boot the iMac. We need to do some data gathering on the kind of graphics hardware the iMac has.
The above info tells us that the GPU is an ATI Radeon 2600 Pro with 256MB ram. This is a very important piece of info.
Step 3 – Partitioning the iMac
We need to be aware of the ways OSX manage the drive partitions. There are some partitions which are intended to be hidden from view. The Mac Disk Utility is capable of viewing these partitions but we need to first tweak its settings. This is what we need to do. First make sure that disk utility is not open. Quit Disk Utility if have to. Open a terminal and type in this command in one line.
defaults write com.apple.DiskUtility DUDebugMenuEnabled 1
The terminal window will look somewhat like this:
To disable this function, just start Terminal again and key in this line.
defaults write com.apple.DiskUtility DUDebugMenuEnabled 0
Now start Disk Utility and make sure that the “Show every partition” setting is enabled as follows:
I have previously replaced the hard drive to my iMac 2007 with a new 240GB Kingston HyperX SSD. My main OSX Maverick partition is 75GB (for now) and I have the remaining 165GB partition intended for El Capitan in future.
The above is how my partitions look like before prepping the system for windows 10. It can also be observed that there is a hidden EFI partition that is otherwise not visible. It is important to note that I have a very simple partitioning scheme on my iMac. So if you have a complicated setup, then this tutorial may or may not work for you. Ideally I would like to reserve at least 128GB for Windows 10 but I will use 100GB for now. Usually I will create a Windows OS partition + a Data partition on my PC boxes but I decided that I am going to just keep things simple for now. So the OS + Data go onto one big partition at this stage. I have most of my data stored on a NAS anyway so this is not a problem for me.
Now we need to create a partition suitable for Windows 10. There are 2 ways to partition a drive: via MBR (Master Boot Record) or via GPT (GUID Partition Table). Wikipedia has more information here:
To put it simply, MBR is a legacy standard that was introduced since the early IBM PC DOS days. MBR is limited to a maximum of 4 primary partitions. To create more partition, we will have to resort to more creative ways such as setting the 4th partition as the extended partition so that we can create logical drives (sub-partitions) within the extended partition. It is a limited system. The GPT scheme is the way forward.
Just a note here: Windows 7 can only be installed on a MBR partition but it’s data drivers can be located on GPT partitions. Windows 8.1 64 bit can be installed to a GPT but the system must support UEFI.
On the Mac, launch Terminal and type “diskutil list” to list all the partitions visible to MacOS.
What I did next is to resize my El Capitan partition to 64.6GB and make way for a new 100GB partition for Windows 10.
The command line to do this is
diskutil resizevolume /dev/disk0s3 64.6G MS-DOS “WIN7” 100G
Obviously the partition name and disk size will be different between different users.
Graphically, Disk Utility will show something like this:
Now that we have created a new Win7 partition, we can proceed to install Windows 10.
Step 4 – Installing Windows 10
Insert the Windows 10 64bit boot DVD into the iMac and reboot the Mac. Once the famous Mac boot tone is heard, press the Option key. We should now see a Windows DVD icon next to the Maverick one like so.
This will allow us to select whether we are going to boot from the SSD or to boot from the DVD. Select the Windows DVD. Windows 10 will now boot and we should now see the Windows 10 logo on the screen. Be aware that the boot process takes a long time so while it may appear that the system has hung, it is not. It is just very slow. After about a minute or 2 later, we will now see the first setup screen.
Follow the prompt until we are at this screen where Windows prompt us whether we should do an Upgrade Install or a Custom Install. Select Custom: Install Windows Only (Advanced).
This will quickly bring us to the Windows partition screen.
Some quick observations:
- There are now 4 primary partitions:
- Disk0 Partition 1 which is the Mac EFI partition (200MB).
- Disk0 Partition 2 which is the Mac Maverick partition (69.9GB).
- Disk0 partition 3 which is the Mac El Capitan partition (60.2GB).
- Disk0 partition 4 which is the newly created windows partition (93.1GB)
- Windows also created a boot partition which is 128MB.
We wanted to install Windows 10 on Disk0 Partition 4 but Windows will state the following error message “Windows can’t be installed on Drive 0 Partition 4.”
Ignore this and while this partition is selected, click “Format” and format the partition. When the format is done, the error message will go away and Windows 10 can proceed to installing normally.
From hereon, the installation is typical of any Windows 10 PC install.
At some stage of the installation, Windows 10 will automatically reboot. This is fine. No need to press the Option key as it is smart enough to know that it should boot from its own windows partition. In fact, I observed that Windows 10 rebooted twice in total before it shows the screen prompting for a product key. Enter the product key accordingly.
Next it will ask if we should customize the settings or use express settings. I select custom settings and I highly recommended that this be selected. See here for more information of what to enable and what to disable. http://www.howtogeek.com/224352/what%E2%80%99s-the-difference-between-windows-10%E2%80%99s-express-or-custom-setup/
Once this is done, Windows 10 will again reboot and proceed with the install. Follow the prompt accordingly as Windows prompt for login account, etc. When the install is finished, Windows 10 will boot to a desktop. This is how it looks on my Mac.
Peeking under the hoot shows this:
Viola! We have now successfully installed Windows 10 64bit on an 8 year old Mac.
Step 5 – Windows Drivers
The first observation with Windows 10 on the iMac is that the screen resolution is not the optimum 1920 x 1200. If we leave Windows 10 running for about 5 mins after its first boot, it will automatically change the screen resolution to the correct 1920 x 1200. Unfortunately, Windows 10 will in the process select the wrong graphics driver.
The above screenshot shows that Windows 10 has detected the display card as an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT. The iMac 2007 has an ATI Radeon 2600 Pro with 256MB GDDR3 memory. Why is this significant? Because with the incorrect driver, Windows 10 will hard crash from time to time and this can be reproduced each time easily when we drive the card hard such as playing a youtube video for instance. This gets so bad that it is almost impossible to use the iMac for any length of time.
The blue screen of death looks like the following:
A closer look will find that it is the ATI driver that is causing the crash. Hint: look at the atikmpag.sys error above. This is in fact the hardest part in this tutorial to deal with. It takes several trials and errors to hit the right note and even with this tutorial, I don’t expect it will be a smooth sailing for everyone.
Step 6 – Display Card Hardware IDs
I have tried to force Windows 10 to use the correct display driver that comes as part of the OS but I don’t have much success with this approach. The closest device driver that come with Windows 10 for the ATI Radeon 2600 Pro is the ATI Radeon HD2600 Pro.
However, Windows 10 will not install this driver and will throw the following error:
We don’t have any other options other than to modify the video driver.
But first we need to gather some forensic data from Windows 10 on the iMac. Go to Display driver properties, hit the “properties” button. This will open up another windows. Navigate to the “Details” tab and in the dropdown menu, select “Hardware Ids” as shown below.
Microsoft has some good info what exactly are “Hardware Ids”. See here. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff546152%28v=vs.85%29.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396. In a nutshell, a hardware ID is an identification string defined by a manufacturer so that Windows can use this information and pair the hardware device to a device driver INF file. So in our case, there is a mismatch between the physical hardware and the device driver and hence the crash.
We can see that there are 4 hardware Ids as reported by Windows 10. These hardware IDs resemble one another, sort of in a way. There are clearly some patterns here:
- The first string is the longest and contain the most amount of information. The other strings appear to be a subset of the first string.
- The second string is almost identical to the first except that the string truncated the revision number at the end. The fourth string is also almost identical to the third except missing 2 x zeros at the end.
So what we need to do now is to select these 4 hardware IDs by highlighting these 4 lines and right click the mouse to copy. Copy and paste these lines into a temporary text file so that we can get to these later.
We now need to install the latest video driver.
Step 7 – Installing the latest Video Driver
This tutorial is using Windows 10 64 bit so we obviously will only use 64 bit drivers. Browse to AMD’s website: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
The display card is an old card and is considered a legacy device.
AMD has yet to update their older device drivers to Windows 10 64bit so drivers compatible with Windows 8 64bit is the next best thing. Click “Display Results” and we will see:
Download the catalyst software suite v13.1 from the above link.
Before we install this, we need to disable Windows 10 64 bit’s driver signature enforcement. This is unique only to 64 bit OS and this step is not required for 32 bit Windows.
Here is a helpful guide how to disable Windows 10’s driver signature enforcement.
So the steps to do this are:
- Select “Restart” from the Power options menu and hold down the Shift key and click restart
- Once computer is booted, select Troubleshoot option -> Advanced Options -> Startup Settings. There will be a startup button there. Hit the startup button and the iMac will reboot.
- After the iMac is rebooted, a list of startup settings will then show up. Press the F7 key (or the “7” number key) to disable driver signature enforcement.
- The iMac will once again reboot.
Now install the AMD Catalyst Software. I select Custom Install so at least I have a slight knowledge of what components will be installed to Windows.
When the install is finished, navigating to the video device driver properties window will now show a new “Catalyst Pro Control Center” tab. See the following screenshot:
But clicking this will show an error like so:
Now we have to patch the video driver.
Step 8 – Patching the Video Driver
- Go to Display Driver Properties -> Properties -> Detail -> INF Section. Observe the string that is being shown. On my iMac this is “ati2mtag_M76”.
2. Use Windows Explorer to navigate to this directory: “c:\AMD\Support\13-1-legacy_vista_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF” as shown here.
The files are generally named like so:
- C7 series with names such as C7160540, etc
- C8 series with names such as C8160540, etc
- CH series with names such as CH160540, etc.
There is a significance to how these files are named. The CH ones are device drivers for Windows Vista. The C7 ones are for Windows 7 and C8 ones are for Windows 8. We are going to patch the C8 drivers. So before we do any damage to these files, let us back these up to another folder. Quite an important step in case we make a unrecoverable error here.
There are 3 off C8 series files. These are:
Peeking inside the C8160540.inf file, we will see all the definitions of video drivers. If we look closer, we will find strings such as
[Manufacturer] %ATI% = ATI.Mfg, NTamd64.6.2
The notable part in the above string is the last digits “6.2“. This is the “version strings” that identify the version of Windows NT. The Windows NT version strings are as follows:
- NT 5.0 = Windows 2000
- NT 5.1 = Windows XP
- NT 6.0 = Windows Vista
- NT 6.1 = Windows 7
- NT 6.2 = Windows 8
- NT 6.3 = Windows 8.1
- NT 6.4 = Windows 10
So what we will do is to change the above string to:
%ATI% = ATI.Mfg, NTamd64.6.4
So that Windows 10 can recognize this as a valid device driver. I edited this [Manufacturer] section as follows:
[Manufacturer] ;%ATI% = ATI.Mfg, NTamd64.6.2 ;The above is the original string ;The below is a newly amended string for Windows 10 %ATI% = ATI.Mfg, NTamd64.6.4
Now we know from Windows 10 that the INF section is relevant to the video driver is:
Next we are going to change the section identifier from
[ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.2] to [ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.4]
The amended section now looks like this:
Next we are going to scroll all the way down in this INF file. The goal is to find a “localizable” string that reads something like “ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro” or something similar. This section looks something like the following:
Scrolling towards the end of the file, we will come to this line, which is what we want:
Note that this string has an identifier “AMD9589.6”. Now do a search for this string and we will quickly come to this line:
Now amend this line to read as follows:
Now go to Display Properties and update the driver. When it prompt for a driver, click the “Have Disk” button and point to the folder c:\AMD\Support\13-1-legacy_vista_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF” folder.
Select the file C8160540.INF. Windows 10 will display several compatible drivers like so:
Theoretically all 4 drivers should be the same so choose the first one to see if this works. Windows 10 will complain about unsigned drivers. Ignore this and proceed. Windows will go blank for a few times while the new driver is loaded. This is normal. Display Properties will now show the following:
We are now done!!
This sounds complicated but it is really not. To recap, we only need to do these:
- Find out from Windows Properties what is the “INF Section” string. In my case it is “ati2mtag_M76”
- Amend the C8XXXX.inf to change the NT version string from 6.2 to 6.4
- From within the C8XXXX.inf file, scroll down near to the end of the file to locate the localizable string “ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO”. In my case my line reads: AMD9589.6 = “ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO”
- Take note of the first part of this string and search for this string “AMD9589.6” within the file. We will be able to locate this line which in my case reads: “%AMD9589.6%” = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9589
- Amend the above lines. Refer earlier texts for more info.
- Update the driver in Device Properties and viola we are done.
To verify if this works, load a youtube video and see if this cause the iMac to crash. In my case, Windows 10 appear to be stable. Fingers crossed. Note that AMD’s Catalyst Pro Control Center will not work immediately after the device driver is installed. We need to do a reboot first. Catalyst Pro will work after the reboot.
Step 9 – What works and what don’t
What worked out of the box:
In fact almost everything works. See the following device manager screenshot:
Catalyst Pro reported the video hardware as follows:
One of the first thing I did after Catalyst Pro is up and running is to change the screen brightness. The iMac’s screen is so bright that it actually hurts my eyes. I tune the setting all the way down. I overdid the settings by tuning the brightness all the way down to -100. I think -50 works well for me.
What don’t work (or buggy)
- Some keys in the Apple Keyboard.
Step 10 and Beyond
Windows 10 has now been installed on my iMac for the past weeks and so far it has been stable. No crashes so far. Fingers crossed. I don’t find the iMac lagging in anyway and the experience of using Windows 10 on this aging iMac is not much different to my main desktop i5-4670 3.4GHz with 16GB ram. Windows 10 on the iMac is a good match and I would recommend this. Hope this tutorial is useful in anyway. Happy “windowing”…..
Credits and References
I cannot achieve the above without the following guides. Thanks to all the authors and contributors:
Posted on August 9, 2015, in Computer, Computer, Hardware, Software, How-to's and tagged Apple, iMac, Microsoft, windows 10, Windows 10 64bit, Windows 10 64bit iMac 2007, Windows 10 64bit on iMac, Windows 10 on iMac. Bookmark the permalink. 21 Comments.